asked about ohio senator rod portman's decision this week to support same-sex marriage after his son revealed to him he's gay, christie didn't budge on his stance, which, of course, is opposition to marriage equality. but as far as how it affects my view, no, christie said, because that question implies that somehow this is a political judgment, and for me, it's not. joining me now, msnbc's alex wagner, and ari melber. saxby chambliss said, "i'm not gay, so i'm not going to marry one." i guess that clears that up. >> there are two things -- i'm not going to marry one is already sort of one of -- like the otherness implicit in that is sort of offensive. but actually, it's even more offensive than that if you substitute the question about gay marriage for interracial marriage. well, i'm not black, so i'm not going to marry one. i mean, these are fundamental questions about equality. and the marriage question, marriage equality, is a civil rights issue.